I am confused. The flip flop by the Malaysian governement on the issue of the sanctity of the word "Allah" is a huge joke. I wonder why some people are paid good money to make other people's life a nuisance..
During the primary and secondary school, I used to be asked to lead the school assembly which involves singing the national and state song. Imagine me trying to do that today and I could be slapped with a suit and a time in jail. Imagine 10 years old in jail for using the word and the real criminals are left in the street to continue their carnage.
So, dear friends in these 5 states who can be jailed for singing their state songs ... do your maths. This is a huge joke for the world to laugh at us.
LAGU NEGERI TERENGGANU -
Selamat Sultan Allah daulatkan Tuanku Sultan Terengganu Darul Iman Allah peliharakan Tuanku Sultan Sejahtera sepanjang zaman Allah rahmatkan Tuanku Sultan Memerintah rakyat aman
LAGU NEGERI KELANTAN
Lanjutkan usia Al-Sultan kami Sultan Kelantan raja ikrami Aman sentosa Tuhan sirami Kekal memerintah kami Kasih dan taat setia disembahkan Keriangan diucapkan Segala kebesaran Allah cucurkan Bertambah kemuliaan
LAGU NEGERI JOHOR
Allah selamatkan Sultan Anugerahkan dia Segala kehormatan Sihat dan ria Kekal dan makmur Luaskan kuasa Naungkan kami Rakyat dipimpini bersama lagi Dengan Merdeka Baru bersatu hati Allah berkati Johor Allah selamatkan Sultan.
LAGU NEGERI SELANGOR -
Duli Yang Maha Mulia, Selamat diatas taktha, Allah lanjutkan usia Tuanku Rakyat mohon restu, Bawah duli Tuanku, Bahagia selama-lamanya Aman dan sentosa Duli Yang Maha Mulia..
LAGU NEGERI KEDAH
Allah selamat Sultan Mahkota Berpanjangan usia di atas Takhta, Memelihara ugama Nabi kita, Negeri Kedah serata-rata
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Tattoo "kafir" on Non Muslims.- ref Malaysiakini
This writer (Mahaguru58 - he is one blogger whose writting comes out in Malaysiakini, Islamic perspectives. Oh, and if your writting is not pro-him, he will delete it. So, dun waste time posting on his blog esp. if you make effort to get the facts right) makes me hoping mad! Read here on a meeting of so called Muslim bloggers. They are the 'intellectuals" and supposedly far sighted.
"The reality nowadays is that Christians and other Kaffirs tend to zoom in and focus on the screwups by a few Muslims and then lay claim to saying that Islam is bad." - We respect the religion , but fear the worshipers and people in authority who misuse their power. And thanks for calling us Kafirs , all the time.
"... where Christians in Malaysia are prone to interfering into Islamic and Muslims affairs here since the change of leadership in the BN Government." - show me ONE example,please. Is it the one where Saiful was asked to swear by Quran and Muslim/ UMNO leaders says that it is ok to swear on the quran since Christians swear by their bible. ( which you see in US television shows but is not a Christian thingie. dumb dumber)
"I joked with MENJ about suggesting that instead of carrying a card which could get lost, maybe it would be better to have a tattoo on their chest or forehead that they are Kaffir!"- you mean, as the sign of 666? Or Harry Potter with moving graphics? Cool.
From"The Christians know about it but refuse to accept the truth that the Gospel of Barnabas contains." - Church leaders and theologians have dismissed this book (wiki) and countless others, and not even part of Christian literature. Some Muslims took advantage (this website set up to propogate the views) since this 'gospel' suggest the link betwen Christianity and Islam. Here is the article from Muslim.net where it was summarized :-
"Imagine you were a Muslim who was told that someone found a lost "book" from God. Among other things, this "Sura" mentioned that Mohammed sailed on a boat to Mecca, and this Sura contradicted the teaching of the Bible and contradicted the Qur’an on ten points. The oldest manuscript of the alleged Sura was written in Italian, which is both not a Mideastern language and did not even exist in the time of Mohammed. Finally, this supposed Sura had some historical customs, which did not occur until 1,000 years later in Europe.
It is safe to say a Muslims would probably have a few questions, to say the least. Before you embrace this medieval forgery as an authentic work that shows the "real" teachings of Jesus, remember that this work contradicts the Qur’an, too."
Italian text, where wines are made in casts like old world wines and not in jars like in Middle East. (Photo)
Islamic scholars have done more studies on this book and now Christian scholars are taking a look. Both side agreed that it is a fabrication from medieval times, years after Jesus or Mohammad. If only the writer reads more than to parrot half truths.
GRAND FINALE(Drum rolls please )
"I for one am doing what I can within my means to clear the air about Islam and in my own way share what I have come to learn about Islam and what it really is? "- I am honestly confused if your 'good' intent of daawah ( conversion) persuaded me. I am not perfect and I do not like hypocrites. I prefer be repeatedly called a kafir. If i become a muslim, I am not a Muslim but mualaf (convert). Mualaf sounds like a bread, i prefer kafir which sounds like coffee or lime. Thanks, but no thanks.
Catholic church in Pahang threatened with demolition
From Charles
Last week some 1,000 persons protested the attempt to demolish an over 80 year old Catholic Church/Chapel in Triang, Pahang - and they were met by 200 over persons believed to be aligned to the Developer.
The FRU were there in full gear - and they caused the 'save the church' protest to end.Well, it is a small Church in a 'rural Pahang town' - and looking through the newspapers, I saw almost no report of the struggle of the community to preserve their 'heritage' church - nothing about that 1,000 strong protest...nothing really.
And that makes me wonder of the actual number of placesa of worship that is being demolished and torn down in Malaysia.I hope the Pahang State Government, which is a BN government, and also the Federal Government step in and ensure that this very old Church is preserved - and not demolished.Hopefully, after Permatang Pauh - maybe the media and others could also look at what is happening in small town Triang in Pahang --- and do the needful to safe this church.
Last week some 1,000 persons protested the attempt to demolish an over 80 year old Catholic Church/Chapel in Triang, Pahang - and they were met by 200 over persons believed to be aligned to the Developer.
The FRU were there in full gear - and they caused the 'save the church' protest to end.Well, it is a small Church in a 'rural Pahang town' - and looking through the newspapers, I saw almost no report of the struggle of the community to preserve their 'heritage' church - nothing about that 1,000 strong protest...nothing really.
And that makes me wonder of the actual number of placesa of worship that is being demolished and torn down in Malaysia.I hope the Pahang State Government, which is a BN government, and also the Federal Government step in and ensure that this very old Church is preserved - and not demolished.Hopefully, after Permatang Pauh - maybe the media and others could also look at what is happening in small town Triang in Pahang --- and do the needful to safe this church.
Inikah Kebenaran? (Is this the truth?)

If one is to google "Injil" ( bible ) and "remaja" ( Youth) , one will find an interesting website called Inilah Kebenaran. ( The truth). Like great websites set up in United Kingdom and United States, it saught to tell stories of converts of the great religion of Islam especially from Christian backgrounds. The only difference is that it is written in local language ( BM ) and have local contents.
Gerakan Kristianisasi di Malaysia -http://malay.bismikaallahuma.org/gerakan-kristianisasi-di-malaysia/
An excellent summary of this website come from the 2 writters where they exclaimed that only thru the admitance of the this great religion ( from non Muslims) and implementation of Syariah law can it bring back the majesty of the Malay race in Malaysia. (Hanya dengan pengakuan Daulah Islamaiah dan sistem perundangan Islam sahaja yang akan dapat mengembalikan keagungan Melayu di Malaysia)
Do not like to waste too much time on it but here are 2 observations.
1. The article correctly identify Malaysian Muslims who wanted to officially convert to Christianity but are not allowed.
2. The supposed proof that books with ambigous titles like "Kaabah, Wahyu Ilahi dan Mengenal Rasul" turns out differently. This would be similar to the stories of bible being packaged to look like Quran. Perhaps those books are from different Islamic sects or maybe not. Yet the photos were books that have titles that are able to distinguished to be non Muslim books. Anyway, i always believed that my Muslim friends are more than able to distinguish between books/ articles ( consistent with my writtings during protest on book seizure, the BM Bible ban )
Awas Perangkap Kristian Untuk Remaja Islam - http://malay.bismikaallahuma.org/awas-perangkap-kristian-untuk-remaja-islam/#more-23
On the lighter note, this article steals the show...
1. Christian youths are encouraged with benefits ( perhaps monetory) and were taught different techniques to lure Muslim girls in Malaysia.(skim galakan kepada para jejaka Kristian serta diberi tunjuk ajar mengenai teknik untuk memikat)
2. These Christian man would then act to be attracted to the politeness, clothing & demureness of the Malay girls. (mereka akan berlakon seolah-olahnya mereka telah tertarik dengan kesopanan, cara berpakaian serta kelembuatan tingkah laku anak-anak gadis kita ini)
3. At the right time, these devious mans will make their first move by being 'pictured' together (not sure literally or taking photos to perhaps blackmail) in love, and to have sex with the girls.
( mereka akan digambarkan seolah-olah mereka terbawa-bawa oleh perasan cinta sehingga si gadis ternoda)
4. Finally,these sweet talker will convince the girl that they will get married since she is pregnant, but she has to convert because:-
a) In Islam, they would have sinned and be punished.
b) In Christian, they would be forgiven and since Mary is a single mother, it is more readily accepted. (menganggap awak senasib dengan Mary (Mariam))
- Oh btw, it is a sin in the bible. And Joseph never had premarital sex with Mary .. if u believe the bible.
I never thought of those logics. And i never thought about the precise words ( or pschyology) used to deviously manipulate some people. I do know however that figuratively, " a thief will know another thief". Perhaps there are and if really that there is a group that systematically target conversion thru such immoral techniques, i would be the first to be disheartened. Certaintly, the teaching of the bible and Christ urges us to not stoop to that level. For the issue of conversion is not of man, but God is the one who converts.
Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but whoever takes crooked paths will be found out. (Proverbs 10.9)
Now this is our boast: Our conscience testifies that we have conducted ourselves in the world, and especially in our relations with you, with integrity [ Many manuscripts holiness] and godly sincerity. We have done so, relying not on worldly wisdom but on God's grace. 2 Cth 1.12
I would not be able to throw the first stone, but let us be careful to distinguish between emotions, propoganda and truth.
Flip Flopping Abdullah Government
The government has decided to go against its initial decision, so ALLAH is again exclusive to Malaysian Muslims. If you are a non Muslim or a non-Malaysian Muslim, you should not use this word. Wait, you can say it but not write it down or read it. (huh!?)
Actually, am tired to continue writing about this issue. It is like a yo-yo of emotion. When you think that the country management has got the facts right ( from expert inputs etc. ) , they let you down again. This time, the raison de taire is paraphrased to "since the law is already there, we need to uphold it". Wow, since when Malaysian government cared so much about its law or even constitution!! We just changed our constitution to allow an 'independent' Election committee chairman to last till he conducts the next General Election.(oh, he even knows the date of the election even though the PM does not) We even have a law that outlaws oral sex. Are we going to uphold that against Chua Soil Lek?
Christians: Allah ban hurts Malaysia’s moderate Muslim image
“Allah” may mean “God” everywhere else, but not in Malaysia
Anger over Malaysia 'Allah' ban
Double shame
Christians in Malaysia are shamed!!
Last Christmas it was the small issue of turkey that happens a week before Christmas creating an artificial shortage. Yes, the cry was against imported turkey that does not have "HALAL" certifications ( what?!) so this year turkeys cost 3x more since nobody wants to import them anymore. This is chicken feed.
So, the government decided to go one better this year!
1. Prior to Christmas 2008 - Ban on the usage of Allah word, hold the Catholic church and East Malaysia Evangelical Church to ransom. These 2 churches decided to ask for justice through our blameless courts.
2. In public Christmas message, Gerakan lap dog acting president Koh Tsu Koon asked "Those who celebrate Christmas" to "respect Islam as the official religion".
3. On Christmas day, Prime Minster Abdullah Ahmad Badawi did one better by reiterating the ban on the word "Allah" in a Christmas muhibbah open house organized by the Council of Churches Malaysia.
This is textbook PR faux pass.
In YOUR Face!
Who cares about what Christians think or feel? And they keep thinking aloud!
The government will now show you the Ketuanan Melayu, chew your Christian bones and spit it out! :)
That is too strong but that is about it.
Thanks for treating your citizens in this honoured way. In fact, we would not know of this flip flop if not for internet. As our belated Christmas present, would like to issue a call to all Christians in Malaysia to use the next General Election as a referendum AGAINST the ruling party. The ruling party will do all the best to shower you with promises and gift but remember this moment when you cast the vote. The fact is shown that promises will be broken & rules / laws/ constitution will be bent when they got your vote. This Caesar does not deserve our vote and support.
Actually, am tired to continue writing about this issue. It is like a yo-yo of emotion. When you think that the country management has got the facts right ( from expert inputs etc. ) , they let you down again. This time, the raison de taire is paraphrased to "since the law is already there, we need to uphold it". Wow, since when Malaysian government cared so much about its law or even constitution!! We just changed our constitution to allow an 'independent' Election committee chairman to last till he conducts the next General Election.(oh, he even knows the date of the election even though the PM does not) We even have a law that outlaws oral sex. Are we going to uphold that against Chua Soil Lek?
Christians: Allah ban hurts Malaysia’s moderate Muslim image
“Allah” may mean “God” everywhere else, but not in Malaysia
Anger over Malaysia 'Allah' ban
Double shame
Christians in Malaysia are shamed!!
Last Christmas it was the small issue of turkey that happens a week before Christmas creating an artificial shortage. Yes, the cry was against imported turkey that does not have "HALAL" certifications ( what?!) so this year turkeys cost 3x more since nobody wants to import them anymore. This is chicken feed.
So, the government decided to go one better this year!
1. Prior to Christmas 2008 - Ban on the usage of Allah word, hold the Catholic church and East Malaysia Evangelical Church to ransom. These 2 churches decided to ask for justice through our blameless courts.
2. In public Christmas message, Gerakan lap dog acting president Koh Tsu Koon asked "Those who celebrate Christmas" to "respect Islam as the official religion".
3. On Christmas day, Prime Minster Abdullah Ahmad Badawi did one better by reiterating the ban on the word "Allah" in a Christmas muhibbah open house organized by the Council of Churches Malaysia.
This is textbook PR faux pass.
In YOUR Face!
Who cares about what Christians think or feel? And they keep thinking aloud!
The government will now show you the Ketuanan Melayu, chew your Christian bones and spit it out! :)
That is too strong but that is about it.
Thanks for treating your citizens in this honoured way. In fact, we would not know of this flip flop if not for internet. As our belated Christmas present, would like to issue a call to all Christians in Malaysia to use the next General Election as a referendum AGAINST the ruling party. The ruling party will do all the best to shower you with promises and gift but remember this moment when you cast the vote. The fact is shown that promises will be broken & rules / laws/ constitution will be bent when they got your vote. This Caesar does not deserve our vote and support.
Here we go again...
KUALA LUMPUR: A husband filed an interim injunction application at the High Court yesterday to stop the Federal Territory Islamic Council from claiming the body of his late wife who he claimed was a practising Christian at the time of her death.
Ngiam Tee Kong, 53, filed the ex-parte application, which also named the director of Hospital Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (HUKM) as the first defendant.The application filed through Messrs Karpal Singh & Co yesterday is expected to be heard today.The body of Wong Sau Lan, 54, who died on Dec 30, is at the HUKM mortuary.In his affidavit, Ngiam said when he went to HUKM to claim his wife's body, he was informed that it would only be released to him if he confirmed that she was a Muslim at the time of her death.
He was also told that the body would be released to him only for having Christian rites to be performed, after which it was to be returned to the hospital for it to be buried according to Muslim rites.Ngiam claimed that on Dec 31, a day after Wong died, he received a declaration of conversion dated the same day signed by the Federal Territory Religious Department director, stating that Wong converted to a Muslim on Dec 24 at a flat in Jalan Siakap, Cheras.Ngiam, a manager of an entertainment outlet, said the letter given to him did not state his wife's Muslim name. He said she was a practising Christian at the time of her death.He said the letter of conversion was not in compliance with the provisions of Section 90(1) of the Administration of Islamic Law (Federal Territories) Act, 1993, as it was not given to Wong before her death.Ngiam is seeking, among others, declarations that:- Wong was a Christian at the time of her death;- she did not fully embrace Islam before she died; - she was not a Muslim at the time of her death.He also wants the court to issue an order that he had the right to his wife's body and for the hospital director to release it to him immediately.
Ngiam Tee Kong, 53, filed the ex-parte application, which also named the director of Hospital Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (HUKM) as the first defendant.The application filed through Messrs Karpal Singh & Co yesterday is expected to be heard today.The body of Wong Sau Lan, 54, who died on Dec 30, is at the HUKM mortuary.In his affidavit, Ngiam said when he went to HUKM to claim his wife's body, he was informed that it would only be released to him if he confirmed that she was a Muslim at the time of her death.
He was also told that the body would be released to him only for having Christian rites to be performed, after which it was to be returned to the hospital for it to be buried according to Muslim rites.Ngiam claimed that on Dec 31, a day after Wong died, he received a declaration of conversion dated the same day signed by the Federal Territory Religious Department director, stating that Wong converted to a Muslim on Dec 24 at a flat in Jalan Siakap, Cheras.Ngiam, a manager of an entertainment outlet, said the letter given to him did not state his wife's Muslim name. He said she was a practising Christian at the time of her death.He said the letter of conversion was not in compliance with the provisions of Section 90(1) of the Administration of Islamic Law (Federal Territories) Act, 1993, as it was not given to Wong before her death.Ngiam is seeking, among others, declarations that:- Wong was a Christian at the time of her death;- she did not fully embrace Islam before she died; - she was not a Muslim at the time of her death.He also wants the court to issue an order that he had the right to his wife's body and for the hospital director to release it to him immediately.
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