Lina's Response
Nation Thursday May 31, 2007
Lina unhappy with decision
KUALA LUMPUR: Lina Joy is extremely unhappy with the Federal Court judgment.
“I am disappointed that the Federal Court is not able to vindicate a simple but important fundamental right that exists in all persons; namely, the right to believe in the religion of one's choice and equally important, the right to marry a person of one's choice and to raise a family in the Malaysia context.
“The Federal Court has not only denied me that right but to all Malaysians who value fundamental freedoms,” she told The Star, through her solicitor Benjamin Dawson.
“I am hoping that my case would have made a difference to the development of constitutional issues in the plight of many others.”
Asked whether she would leave Malaysia for good, Lina, who is believed to be overseas at present, said: “It would extremely difficult to exercise freedom of conscience in the present environment.”
Lina, 42, was born Azlina Jailani to Malay parents. She was brought up as a Muslim but at the age of 36 became a Christian.
In 1999, she managed to change the name in her identity card to Lina Joy but the National Registration Department retained her religion in the card as Islam.
On April 23, 2001, the High Court refused to decide on her application to renounce Islam as her religion on grounds that the issue should be decided by the Syariah Court. It also dismissed her application for an order to direct the department to drop the word “Islam” from her identity card.
On Sept 19, 2005, the Court of Appeal, in a majority decision, also rejected her appeal.
The day Islamic Law is higher than Malaysian Constitution
Islam has higher status in Malaysia
PUTRAJAYA: Islam has a higher status than other faiths in Malaysia, said a lawyer holding a watching brief for the Malaysian Muslim Lawyers Association.
Pawancheek Marican said Article 11 of the Constitution restricted propagation of other religions to Muslims.
“Our Constitution favours Islam. Islamic law is part of the law of our country,” he said.
Another lawyer, Zulkifli Nordin, who is holding a watching brief for the Muslim Youth Movement of Malaysia (ABIM), said there were rules for Muslims to follow before they could renounce Islam.
“These rules are the Quranic law and the sunnah,” he said.
And again, the argument that something earlier is better and correct. If that is so, i guess the Hindu and Buddhist law should be even earlier. Or the traditional coursts in Sabah /Sarawak should have the same weightage.
“We have to take into account that Islam was here from the 13th century. The Malay Sultanate became Muslim and, later, its people,” he said, adding that the system was interrupted with the intrusion of colonial powers.
“The law that was applied then was Islamic law and several centuries later, Malaysia became a fully Islamic country.”
He said everything about the Malays then was governed by Islam and Malay customs. On the other hand, British law was limited and based on Christianity.
“Unfortunately, the British were the stronger party and had their way on what should be Malay customs and Muslim law,” he said, questioning the need to conform to the British legal system after the country’s independence.
Sulaiman said the Malaysian Constitution was unique in that it had a special place for Islam.
He added, however, that Muslims could not declare their renunciation of Islam without the involvement of religious authorities because there would be Constitutional repercussions.
“For instance, one may declare himself a Muslim in the morning and by the evening he is not a Muslim. Or, he is a Muslim when it’s time for zakat and not a Muslim during the fasting month,” he said.
This prompted Chief Justice Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim to ask: “Are you saying that a Buddhist can be a Buddhist in the morning and a Christian in the evening?”
Sulaiman answered there was nothing to stop anyone from doing so.
So, should there be something that stop people from doing so ? Either other religions have their own courts but fundamentally, stopping someone from doing the thing that they decide is already against the spirit of freedom. And in specific to religion, it is against article 11. CJ Ahmad is not wise enough to spot that.
He said several legal representatives of non-governmental organisations had, in their submissions last week, made attacks on the position of Islam.
“That is a total reversal of what the Government had set out to achieve,” he said.
The NGOs had supported the view of Justice Gopal Sri Ram, who gave his dissenting judgment in the Court of Appeal, that the NRD’s refusal to make the amendment in Lina’s identity card without an order or certificate from the Syariah Court was null and void.
I believe it is not attacks on Islam as the respect on the constitution requires it.The challenge is the arbitary changes that happens , deviating from the original intent of it. It is a defense against a system designed to do so. So, is Sulaiman admitting that the government has a hand in this?
Anyway, i believe this is the best 50th year Merdeka gift that all non- Muslims receive from our government. The court is not only leaking water this year.
Lina Joy's decision today
This decision by the apex court will affect one’s constitutional freedom to choose one’s religion as well as who one can marry, especially for those who want to renounce Islam and for people who convert to Islam but later want to revert to their former religion.
May our constitution be uphold.
Crooked Ms Universe party
First, congratulations to Riyo Mori for winning this year's pegeant. Japan , India, Philipines seemed to be the only country in Asia who is able to produce there talents till now. Korea is up and coming with 'upgraded' models overhang. Perhaps also made a point to Malaysia, Singapore and some other Asian country who traditionally favoured a Caucasion mixed blood over more Asian looks. Ala manga. Yes, she deserves the win.I have not watched any of these competition for some years now and i guess she has the 'liao' for it.
Anyway, this is still a flesh trade.
Am sure Amsterdam have this as well. Cheap sale.
And no thanks to Donal Trump. Ever wonder why Ms America always seemed to be able to make it no matter how bad things are? And rightly , pegeant is also a political arena and a whole seedy affair. I guess the Swedes are right that the competition does not reflect modern women. It still abides by old rules of American hamegomy.
'WE' can lie, bomb, force ... even making a big boo boo and still 'win'. If a boss makes a mistake, it is innovation. If a mah chai, it is still a mistake.
Some conspiracy theorists have even suggested that these judges settled for an Asian woman to win knowing that Miss USA could not possibly take the crown while punishing the Mexican crowd by ensuring that the two Latin American representatives would not win either (heavily favored Miss Venezuela and Miss Brazil). That theory doesn't come into play with the other Asian delegate, Miss Korea (Honey Lee) who was also among the favorites compared to big 22 to 1 underdog, Miss Japan.
The Mexican crowd booed Miss USA when she first began answering her surprise question but cheered her at the end, perhaps realizing she did not deserve their hostilities. It was reported that NBC warned the angry crowd during the commercial break that by booing Miss USA, they would set a bad precedent for the world to see.
But what the world saw was the make up of judges who included: NBC's "Heroes" James Kyson Lee, NBC's "Deal or No Deal" briefcase model Lindsay Clubine, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, rocker Dave Navarro, and champion figure skater Michelle Kwan. Marc Bouwer was born in Johannesburg, South Africa where he studied fashion and won the South African Vogue Young Designer Award, but he currently resides in New York.
"A more diverse group of judges is needed," expressed Gambling911.com Senior Editor, Payton O'Brien. "I think the Mexican crowd was reacting to a global perception that the US is seen as too influential perhaps and this was illustrated by the make up of the judges and its ability to ensure Miss USA made it into the final 5 after she fell."
There was also booing for pageant owner Donald Trump, who brushed off the reaction to Miss USA as a response to the controversial US immigration policy
I like weddings
Interesting photo , candid yet with sombre lighting .. bringing the best out of the mudane make up session.
A practice before the crowd comes. Notice the abundance of brown/ matte colour?
Ouch, my stomach looks full.
They seemed to enjoy this part the best in all the picture. The Yam Seng photogeniety:)
What to do when your iPod Freezes
1. Make sure your hold switch is off by sliding the switch away from the headphone jack. (so you see no orange under the switch)
2. Press and hold the following combination of buttons simultaneously for approximately 10 seconds to reset the iPod.
- iPod 1G to 3G: “Menu” and “Play/Pause”- iPod 4G+ (Photo, Video, Nano and Mini): “Menu” and “Select”
- iPod Mini or 4th gen iPod or higher (nano, video, photo), then you need to depress the Menu and Select buttons, not the Menu and Play button, to restart. The Select button is the center button in the middle of the wheel.
3. Upon reset your will see the iPod name and the Apple logo before it advances to the main Menu.
Go Apple!!
Liverpool KaKa-oed
A Winner!!
My childhood team won the Champion's league title 2007 with a convincing 2-1 victory over hapless Liverpool. The Red and Black team of ageing players were able to combine it with adequate youth of Oddo, Jankaulauski and of course , Kaka.
A pleasant & religious man, he was man marked for a long time this morning. Created the first goal by getting a free kick and a delicious slide rule pass to Inzaghi for the second, to me he is the edge of the team. And he celebrated the victory by giving thanks to God ( ala the picture) and revealing a shirt that says " I Belong to Jesus". Amen to that. ___________________________________________________________________
And Malaysia's perennial sore looser ..
Well, i do hope our ex RTM chief / current Mis-Information Minister is right about bloggers in Malaysia. That we shiok (pleasure) each other by reading each other's 'lies' via blog. Hopefully no Liverpool fan will read my comment about their team's loss yesterday.
KUALA LUMPUR: Political web blogs have a very small following of about 20,000 people, Information Minister Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin said.
"Only that number out of the 11 million Internet users in the country are actively involved in political blogs. The political bloggers just write for each other to read; they are not a threat," he added.
US is number One in the world!!
The Great US.
Frida Brenigan
First in Oil Consumption:
The United States burns up 20.7 million barrels per day, the equivalent of the oil consumption of China, Japan, Germany, Russia, and India combined.
First in Carbon Dioxide Emissions:
Each year, world polluters pump 24,126,416,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) into the environment. The United States and its territories are responsible for 5.8 billion metric tons of this, more than China (3.3 billion), Russia (1.4 billion), and India (1.2 billion) combined.
First in External Debt:
The United States owes $10.040 trillion, nearly a quarter of the global debt total of $44 trillion.
First in Military Expenditures:
The White House has requested $481 billion for the Department of Defense for 2008, but this huge figure does not come close to representing total U.S. military expenditures projected for the coming year. To get a sense of the resources allocated to the military, the costs of the global war on terrorism, of the building, refurbishing, or maintaining of the U.S. nuclear arsenal, and other expenses also need to be factored in.
Success at 1276 metre of Ledang Mountain, Muar
Quincy anad Xian Xi look like they're going to pengsan.
Bobby's like "No way am I doing this again."
The aunties look delighted.
Your roommate looks smug.
Rev Richard looks pleased with himself.
Nam Chan seems happy to have done it the 5th time, even though still no Puteri.
Michelle: "Phew. Painful, man..."
Stefan: "Good experience, but give me Iceland mountains anyday."
Joe: "Me macho! I love pain! Arrgghhh!"
Me: "Woo hooo! I climbed 12 hours nonstop but still look good!"
Shi and I on top of Muar... the best place in the world. hehe. It was one of the hardest climb that i did. Of course, was out of form and practice and just came back from Beijing two nights before. Notice the big stomach as well? But really praise God that He gave me the strength and friends to bring this thru. Thanks Shi for sending over the individual photos.
Beijing Zoo and Forbidden City
Why is the girl strutting herself like that? hehe. Handcraft stones of 9 metre or something, i overheard.
Emperor - everybody wants to be one .. esp if one have 9000 concubine.
The door to the zoo is rather huge and nice. The best pic out of many tries.
Food Glorious Food
The morning lady who seats us in the Traders Hotel, who is an eye candy for the rest of the businessman. Oh, they have fashion show with tall lanky lady with techno soundtrack during lunch. Robert Kuok sure knows how to win a man's heart.
Funan Food at He Hai. Pork, tuna, duck feet, bird of some kind and probably pork with egg yolk. Healthy stuff.
Trip to Mutianyu Great Wall of China, Beijing
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